The Flaming Lips find
brilliance in smashing
all of the recording rules
into tiny little pieces
“We worked with a producer
once who had worked with
Michael Jackson,” Wayne
Coyne recalls from his
home in Oklahoma City. “He said that while Michael
Jackson was singing in the studio, he’d be dancing;
his feet squeaking on the floor would make these
noises. When they’d turn off the vocal track, those
noises and that inherent funkiness would be gone.
It’s because Michael Jackson was so alive and into it.
He’s tapping his jeans and his shoes are rubbing the
floor—those noises aren’t something that you try to
leave out. Michael Jackson knew that. He would take
chances. Noises are part of the atmosphere of the
music, and the reason the music is being made.”
The noises, the atmosphere, the music, and the
absurdity of it all have made The Flaming Lips one of
the most influential and innovative groups of the past
20 years. While other rock bands have collapsed and
major labels have crumbled, The Flaming Lips and
their loyal Warner Bros. backers have extended their
unique brand of colossal head music. The Oklahomabased
band rarely bothers to record live together
anymore, preferring to record snippets of basic
tracks in their individual home studios (a TASCAM
4-track for Coyne, Pro Tools for bassist/engineer
Michael Ivins, a bevy of stomp boxes through
Pro Tools and Propellerhead Reason for multiinstrumentalist
Steven Drozd). Files are then handed
off to longtime producer Dave Fridmann, who, both
with the band and without, further warps the music
at his Tarbox Road Studios in upstate New York.
“They create their parts at Wayne and Steven’s
rehearsal places,” Fridmann explains. “Michael
engineers the sessions. They bring it to me, and we
add weird sounds on top of that. It’s a deliberate
attempt to not overanalyze what we’re doing and
really just get to, ‘Do I like it? Do I not like it?’ A lot
of times you think, ‘That’s cool; maybe we can apply
this filter to create this other juxtaposition.’ No. We
like it or not. If you like it, we’re moving forward.”
After magnificent malcontents like At War with the
Mystics (2006), Embryonic (2009), and The Flaming
Lips and Stardeath and White Dwarfs with Henry
Rollins and Peaches Doing The Dark Side Of The Moon
(2010), The Flaming Lips threw off those shackles that
bind. Earlier this year The Flaming Lips pronounced
plans to release new music every month for a year.
February saw “Two Blobs F**king,” followed in March
by the 12" EP, The Flaming Lips with Neon Indian, a
collaboration with synth stylist, Alan Palomo. The
Flaming Lips 2011 Gummy Song Skull (with internal
USB stick) followed, a seven-and-a-half-pound edible
gummy bear skull of all Lips music. The band plans
to collaborate with Panda Bear, James Murphy, and
Jimmy Page (who wants to work in-studio with the
Lips, eschewing Internet file sharing); completed
collaborations include The Flaming Lips with
Prefuse 73, Lightning Bolt, Ghostland Observatory,
and Black Moth Super Rainbow. The Lips/Prefuse
73 12" recently hit the streets; next up: a “little fetus”
(Coyne) of Flaming Lips music. And if you look fast,
you can fi nd all of this music on the Internet, for free.
Coyne’s description of Rhode Island duo
Lightning Bolt as “a psychedelic freakout band”
also applies to the current Flaming Lips projects,
collaborations and otherwise. Take a track, any track:
Steven Drozd’s Bonhamish drumming dominates a
mix one second, followed by the velveteen blasts of
Neon Indian’s vintage synths, or the eclectic Dadaesque
cut-ups of Prefuse 73 (Guillermo Brown), and
dripping guitars worthy of Jimi Hendrix’s version of
the “Star Spangled Banner.”
“It isn’t so much a sonic thing as creating
something ethereal, or simply an art project,”
Fridmann says. “Listen to this, and hopefully you’re
going to feel like you’re on drugs. Elements of the
production are live, some are not. It’s like how [Miles
Davis’] In A Silent Way was all edited together. In
some ways you don’t know what the final result is
going to be until it’s done.”
Coyne confirms the band’s nearly instant music
approach, and the inner workings of his brain that put
them there. “Unless you’re just a complete egotistical
f**king fool you always run into this dilemma of
thinking ‘This is great,’ and ten minutes later you
think, ‘This sucks.’ We’re trying to create music in a
realm where you’re slave to your subconscious saying,
‘Take me away, let’s see what happens.’ The minute
you do that you’re a slave to this other dimension of
thinking that’s very critical. You hope that you’ll get
hypnotized. But if I had any regrets about what we’re
putting out, well, it’s just too f**king late.”
Creating the Embryo Flaming Lips tracks can
begin anytime, anywhere, and often do. “Sometimes
I will be at Steven’s and we’ll literally just play a
piece of a drum track, and then loop it and add a bass
track,” Coyne says. “Then we turn both of those into
a loop. Some of this began on my TASCAM cassette
4-track. If I like a minute out of something, I’ll put
it into Pro Tools with Michael [Ivins] and we’ll turn
that minute into a couple of minutes of a groove.
Other times we just play something for 20 minutes
and we record. There’s no process that is out of
bounds, but it’s all about listening.
“I sent Prefuse what I thought were finished tracks
and he found a way to do something,” he continues.
“Then we took the end of one of his tracks, just a loop
of a string line, and turned it into another track. That
became ‘Guillermo’s Bolero.’ Some things happen in a
moment; that’s the spirit we like to be in. Some of this
we will regret, so what! But sometimes I regret not doing
something. You can never live completely satisfied.”

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Fridmann and the Lips use any means necessary
to create the feeling of drug-induced psychological
transportation: extreme/minimalist miking
techniques; vocals recorded on handheld tape
recorders into a Korg Kaoss Pad or one of Steven
Drozd’s vintage stomp boxes; running entire mixes
through a Vox AC30 amp with what sounds like
a torn speaker; destroying a mix by overloading
synthesizers; extreme panning to create “a drum
set heard down the hallway” effect (Fridmann).
Fridmann lays the responsibility on Coyne, Coyne
credits Drozd’s stomp box collection.
“Steven’s distortion pedals provide a
complimentary tone to my voice,” Coyne says. “Like
I’m from some other dimension. That’s where
most music gets its power. Even a Beatles track like
‘Strawberry Fields Forever,’ you think, ‘What the f**k?
Where is Lennon’s singing coming from?’ It’s more
electronic than the electric guitars.”
Drozd’s 50-plus collection of guitar pedals
provides part of the Lips’ arsenal. An avoidance of
damage control provides the rest. “I have a lot of old
stomp boxes,” Drozd says on the phone from Newark
International Airport, where his ticket to Dublin has
gone missing. “Nothing too crazy. A Systech Harmonic
Energizer for one. It’s really just a bad overdrive
pedal with a crazy filter. We also used a Roland [AG-
5] Funny Cat [Harmonic Mover & Soft Distortion
Sustainer] from the mid-’70s. It’s a fuzz pedal with
compression and an auto wah feature. There’s a
separate EQ frequency area for the auto wah. The
Musicmaster bass through the Harmonic Energizer
is a wicked combination. And we ran guitars through
the Funny Cat a lot, but not a whole mix. On ‘In
Our Bodies Out Of Our Heads’ (Gummy Skull), that
dripping, melting guitar sound is actually a Pro Tools
plug-in. Some kids think I am running 20 crazy effects
custom-built for me, but sometimes it’s actually just
a Pro Tools plug-in. We use a healthy combination of
those with old stomp boxes.”
Tarred and Flaming Dave Fridmann’s Tarbox Road
Studios offers gear both vintage and contemporary,
including an Otari Concept Elite 40x24 with Total
Recall Eagle Automation, Neve 24 input 5104, Otari
MTR-90 II 24-track recorder, EMT plate reverbs, an
old pair of Ashly GQX-3102 stereo 31-band EQs (his
favorite distortion tools), and an otherwise stunning
collection of microphones, editing tools, preamps,
effects, amps, and instruments. (Learn more at
tarboxroadstudios.com.) But the concept is heavymental
when the Flaming Lips arrive. Starting with
miking placement.
“It’s very limited miking,” Fridmann says. “We
used the [Shure] KSM44s quite a bit, frequently
through the Otari’s preamps. My technician, Greg
Snow, has endlessly modded [Ampex] 351 mic and 610
mic pres. He labels the switches, ‘Don’t touch this!’ or
‘Danger!’ Of course, we touch them all. They’re just
ginned up so if a mouse whispered in China it would
blow up your speakers. If you choose anything that
has any volume to it, you get a crazy sound.
“Miking-wise,” he continues, “the idea is like
making a cool sample of yourself. When you sample
somebody else’s music, you capture this atmosphere
that someone else has created and apply it to your art.
We create atmospheres and purposely put ourselves
in these awkward situations
where the drummer’s cymbals
are behind him, for example,
so he has to play that way.”
Using minimal miking
when the Lips record at
Tarbox Road, Fridmann
practically follows antistandard
approach. It’s like
spraying a wall with cherry pie
and watching for what sticks.
“We’ll put the drum mic near
the bass amp and the bass amp
mic near the keyboard player,
and put the vocal mic next to
the guitar amp,” Fridmann
elaborates. “It’s about doing
some strange things to push
yourself in a direction you
wouldn’t normally do in the
studio. Whatever the book
tells you to do, don’t do it that
way; do something different.
Sometimes even to the obvious
detriment of the recording.
But it creates an atmosphere, it creates a space, it
creates an idea while you’re making the recording that
is totally different from a normal studio environment.”
Like John Lennon, who famously hated the sound
of his own voice, Coyne enjoys treating his vocals,
but he doesn’t leave it up to the producer alone. He’ll
sing through one thing, put it through another thing,
pass it off to Drozd, and then expect Fridmann to add
effects beyond that.
“Dave has these rare mics, as well as the shittiest
little broken mics,” Coyne says. “I prefer the latter.
If I sing into one microphone, he’ll place other mics
around me to grab different types of air or layers
or depths. The one we end up using a lot looks like
something you’d see a guy in a car lot using. It’s
an announcer microphone [Motorola RMN 5068]
that makes anyone sound like they are talking from
beyond. It creates a mood. I sing through that more
than the other microphones. At home it’s my mic
with the TASCAM 4-track, but often Steven runs
[that signal] through some f**ked-up DeArmond
Thunderbolt wah-wah pedal that gives my voice a
different tone. And even if we don’t use the 4-track, I still
run a lot of things through the TASCAM’s preamp. Maybe
it’s a tone that not everyone likes, but I like it and I know what
it is. We don’t want to use the same coloring and texture and
plug-ins that you hear everywhere. It’s our duty to create things
you’ve never heard before.”
Fridmann used an Ampeg SB-12 head for Michael Ivins’ live
bass, running it through an old “Kodak movie projector speaker
cabinet miked with a Neumann TLM 170,” he explains. That’s
got this really punchy sound. It’s not really just the amp, but that
old speaker, it’s a highly efficient speaker. It’s not meant to take
too much power.”
Proving that he will close-mike when that type of sound is
desired, Fridmann admitted to using “anything that’s pluggedin”
to record the guitars of Coyne, Drozd, and Derek Brown.
“I’ve been using the DPA 4006 lately,” he says. “Usually
pretty straight on the cone, because the sounds they come
up with are so ridiculous anyway, if I can just
capture that, I am pretty good. I don’t need to
add any more character to those.”
For the Neon Indian collaboration, Alan
Palomo played what sounds like a Mellotron
but is actually a Yamaha CS60 through a Vox
AC30 amplifier. He also brought along (and ran
direct) an ARP 2600 and a Korg MS20, and the
Lips played an old Suzuki Omnichord (on the
brain-dribbling, droning sonic delight, “Is David
Bowie Dying?”). Often, the synths momentarily
threaten the mix, then quickly take over entirely,
then as quickly disappear.
“Some of that synth [overload] is
intentional where you just have a couple of
microphones and whoever is loudest in that
channel, that’s what you get,” Fridmann says.
“Or sometimes there are elements happening
in real time, then we might decimate the mix,
which could be anything from putting the
entire mix through a chain of three Eventide
3000s in a row and seeing what happens.
Sometimes we run the mix back out through a
couple of amps and throw some pedals before
that. It’s a real conglomeration. Whenever we
feel dissatisfi ed, let’s do something we’re not
supposed to do and see what happens.”
Drum Down Drum miking is the X factor in
any Flaming Lips recording. Drums come from
anywhere and are processed through anything.
Though Fridmann’s random technique is one
option, he occasionally opts for close-miking
the drums with two transducers, tops.
“Wayne, Michael, and Steven do a lot of
recording at home, [but in my studio] I want to
have the capability of having a normal sound if
desired, so I will use a few mics on the drums,”
he says. “I’ll usually place a DPA 4006 overhead
and another one in front of the kick just because
I’ve never done it before. Then you have a
screaming Vox amplifi er a foot away from the
drums and a Moog going through it. So all bets
are off . The miking becomes a non-issue. We’ll
try something to try it, but what’s happening in
the room is so chaotic it almost doesn’t matter.”
Drozd explains his various drum
conceptions—miking and otherwise. “Why
not put a microphone 30 feet away from the
scene of the crime?” he asks. “Going back to
‘Brainville’ (from Clouds Taste Metallic), for
example, I had three bass drums, with one
tuned as the snare drum. The secondary bass
drum would play the two and four usually
associated with the snare drum. And my hands
did nothing. That’s an example of setting up in
a weird way to make yourself play differently,
therefore playing a rhythm you might not
normally play. Two of the Gummy Skull tracks
I recorded upstairs at my house with one mic,
a KSM44, placed between the bass drum and
snare drum ten inches off the floor. That’s why
those drum sound’s frequency range is really
small. Dave beefs it up, but it’s only one mic.
“At times,” Drozd adds, “I’ve set up two
snare drums: a giant rock snare drum, and a
smaller dance muffled snare. Then ‘Race for the
Prize’ has two distinct kits: a huge Bonham kit,
then an Eagles-sounding kit. I beat the wideopen
drums like mad, then the soft drums I play
like Karen Carpenter. I do that a lot.”
Is failure an option for The Flaming Lips?
Where does any band, even one as seemingly
crazed and definitely as creative as The Flaming
Lips fi nd the courage to bare it all? With an ongoing
year-long world tour happening concurrent with
their scheduled musical collaborations, the Lips
may finally be stretching themselves too thin. Or
maybe that’s the idea all along.
“Being fearless means you don’t care if you
fail,” Coyne claims. “The way to be fearless is
to try it. If it’s safe, don’t do it. If you’re doing
the same thing you used to do, do something
different. In those times that we are at our
bravest, I wake up and think, ‘F**k, what are
we doing?’ But I don’t want to return to the
normal rational way. I like living with the
oblivion and making whatever music and
saying whatever comes to mind.”
Dave Fridmann On Maintaining Mystery in the Mix
“Steven or Kliph [Scurlock] will be playing drums in a room. Down the hall it sounds cool, but when you get closer, it just sounds
like drums. As long as you can maintain that mystery in the mix, whether you’re behind a door or under a blanket, that’s what
makes it interesting. We’ll catch some weird reflection in a certain spot, then try to capture that to tape. It’s a weird combination
of playing something the right way with the mic in the right position, with the right setting. But if you move the mic two inches
over, it’s gone. We create these atmospheres and possibilities other than what you’d normally have with standard miking. In that
way we can effectively sample these environments and put the listener into a space immediately without having to manipulate
or create that space later. That’s the only space there is. You don’t have to decide later, ‘Oh, do we like this or not?’ It’s not a
choice, that’s all we have.”
EQ and Wayne Coyne
“I’m just battling back whatever Wayne’s sending me,” Fridmann laughs. “Sometimes he’s running his mic through a guitar amp
or a stomp box with the high end turned up all the way, into a Kaoss Pad. Or he’s singing through a handheld tape recorder. It’s
pretty shriek-y by the time I get it. I mostly try to get things back into a repeatable listenable format. Often that will require multiple
stages of compression and de-essing along with some heavy EQ as well. I will go back and forth: an EQ, compressor, de-esser, then
another stage of those three in a row, running de-essing, compression, and EQ. I want to affect the first compressor a certain way,
so I will EQ that. Then when I get the compression I want, I de-ess that, then I will go back again—I might want to take 20dB on one
de-essing frequency, so I will do a broad one then a more tight one on the second round of EQ. I will do a de-esser, then another
compression stage, then a final EQ. Some of this will happen on the board, some of this will happen with outboard gear. Sometimes
even a plug-in. These are the lengths I go to to accommodate Wayne, but it’s not necessarily the perfect way to record vocals. You
have to do whatever you can to make the artist comfortable, no matter how ridiculous it may seem.”